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fenix · Jan 25, 2007, 01:25 AM // 01:25

As far as I know, this works because Anet made it so you can't just sit there and drink all your ale and re-zone. If you split up the stacks (into 3+ stacks), you can just drink from different ones and not worry about "drinking windows" and such. E.g:

Drink 5 from Stack A
Zone to GH
Drink 5 from Stack B
Zone Back
Drink 5 from Stack C
Zone to GH
Drink 5 from Stack (HERE IS WHERE YOU RANDOMISE BETWEEN THE 3)

etc. etc. etc.

There's some code put in place that if you continually drink from the same stack, it won't give you the minutes. If you split them up into 5 stacks or so, you can randomise what you drink from, like A, E, B, D, C and not worry about the code.

Evilsod · Jan 25, 2007, 02:20 AM // 02:20

Zoning between the GH and somewhere never worked for me.

I did find however that zoning between districts of the same town works all the time.

I went from 500 minutes to 10000minutes Ale Hound after chugging around 3200 and 900k worth of Spiked Eggnogs. Took me a few days. But i got it. I just zoned between Nolani Eng1 and Nolani Fra1 then back again. But hey, i have a nice title now

Dragou Du Porzan · Jan 25, 2007, 03:42 AM // 03:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by talon

As far as I know, this works because Anet made it so you can't just sit there and drink all your ale and re-zone. If you split up the stacks (into 3+ stacks), you can just drink from different ones and not worry about "drinking windows" and such. E.g:

Drink 5 from Stack A
Zone to GH
Drink 5 from Stack B
Zone Back
Drink 5 from Stack C
Zone to GH
Drink 5 from Stack (HERE IS WHERE YOU RANDOMISE BETWEEN THE 3)

etc. etc. etc.

There's some code put in place that if you continually drink from the same stack, it won't give you the minutes. If you split them up into 5 stacks or so, you can randomise what you drink from, like A, E, B, D, C and not worry about the code.

I had heard this idea espoused in other threads about zoning, so I included it as part of my test. What I found is that randomizing your drinking pattern has absolutely no effect on minute accumulation. I'm guessing this rumor got started by people who had success with drinking and zoning but couldn't account for the windows and made an assumption that an anti-macro code was at work.

Thanks to Feathermoore Rep for the report of a long window from Iron Mines -> Isle of the Dead. So far it looks like a few places - Iron Mines, Ember LC, Dasha's Vestibule - are shaping up as common hot spots for successful zoning, so try them first if you're not sure where to begin.

Feathermoore Rep · Jan 25, 2007, 05:39 PM // 17:39

I also think you should bold the fact that if you use spiked eggnogs, you only need to use 1 spiked eggnog ->zone to GH -> Leave GH -> drink 1 spiked eggnog.

I wasted about 50 spiked eggnog (not that big of a deal), before i realized that zoning with 2 spiked gets you 3 minutes just the same as zoning with 1 spiked gets you 3 minutes. I only discovered this because i accidently zoned when only drinking 1 spiked several times. But none the less, i tested it and in fact, 1 spiked will get you 3 minutes everytime if you hit the overlap window.

Bartuc Galadwor · Jan 25, 2007, 09:28 PM // 21:28

I LOVE YOU Dragou Du Porzan!

Also, I as I was trying to get this to work I noticed that if you zone anywhere are you are not in the correct time window you will still be at the exact same level of drunkness that you zoned at.

Knowing this, you can can find the town that works for you by drinking to level 5 drunkness and then just zoning to different towns with your title window up and just look when it changes. If it changes by one, you just left a town while it's time window was open. If it changed by 2 or 3(depending on how drunk you still were), you just entered a town that has a open window. Once you find a town you test it's window's duration with the zone to guild hall method.

Using this technique I eventually found a town that had a permanent window and I don't have to worry about when it's closed so I just zone as fast as possible. I will later test this with my guildie to see if it is dependant on the Guild Hall you have or the actual character. If anyone wants to know I'm using Isle of Meditation and I'm zoning to Quarrel Falls in Tyria.

Diablo™ · Jan 26, 2007, 12:45 AM // 00:45

This is one awesome guide. Now if only I have the money to acquire all those ales/nogs. lol

Woo · Jan 26, 2007, 03:30 PM // 15:30

Nice guide!

Btw, very nice titel.

Melloni Myaka.

- IGN: Niccy I | Melloni Myaka.

Jumping Is Uselss · Jan 26, 2007, 09:40 PM // 21:40

I don't know if you answered this already, but does it matter on what type of booze you drink?

Dragou Du Porzan · Jan 26, 2007, 11:17 PM // 23:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jumping Is Uselss

I don't know if you answered this already, but does it matter on what type of booze you drink?

You can use any alcohol, but you should know that using this method with anything other than spiked eggnog (or, to a lesser extent, flasks of firewater) will increase the amount needed by 67%. That's very significant for an already expensive title. You'll have to weigh whether the extra speed is worth the cost.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bartuc Galadwor

Also, I as I was trying to get this to work I noticed that if you zone anywhere are you are not in the correct time window you will still be at the exact same level of drunkness that you zoned at.

Knowing this, you can can find the town that works for you by drinking to level 5 drunkness and then just zoning to different towns with your title window up and just look when it changes. If it changes by one, you just left a town while it's time window was open. If it changed by 2 or 3(depending on how drunk you still were), you just entered a town that has a open window. Once you find a town you test it's window's duration with the zone to guild hall method.

Using this technique I eventually found a town that had a permanent window and I don't have to worry about when it's closed so I just zone as fast as possible. I will later test this with my guildie to see if it is dependant on the Guild Hall you have or the actual character. If anyone wants to know I'm using Isle of Meditation and I'm zoning to Quarrel Falls in Tyria.

I'm highlighting this very useful tip for people looking for a good outpost to zone from. I used this same system while I was testing to locate new potentially long-windowed outposts. If you're still not sure where to zone from, try Bartuc's tip.

Also, thanks for the report on a possibly very long window from Quarrel Falls -> Isle of Meditation . If you have really found a permanently open window, that would be the first one on record. Could you test that again to make sure? I also got an uncofirmed report in-game that Iron Mines -> Imperial Isle is a winner. It's likely try considering Iron Mines has worked well for several other GHs, but if someone else using Imperial Isle could comfirm this, that would be great.

Next week I intend to compile all the reports that've been submitted and add them to the original post as a future reference. So if you've got a new and successful place to zone from, post it here so it can be included.

revelation · Jan 27, 2007, 12:59 AM // 00:59

Dasha Vestibule -> Isle of Wurms = permanent zone place for me... and at 0:10 sec it consumes 2 when zoning to gh so I add normal eggnogs and it comes out 5 minutes per zone then, usually just add 1 so it's 4.

Carinae · Jan 27, 2007, 01:23 AM // 01:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dragou Du Porzan

You can use any alcohol, but you should know that using this method with anything other than spiked eggnog (or, to a lesser extent, flasks of firewater) will increase the amount needed by 67%.

Please explain the effect for Firewater. It seems it does behave differently somehow.

Dragou Du Porzan · Jan 27, 2007, 04:31 AM // 04:31

Flasks of firewater are unique in that they raise you 3 drunk levels/drink as opposed to 1 for regular ale and 5 for spiked (anyone wanting a primer on drunk levels should check out http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Drunk). So mix two regular drinks with one FoF and you're at max drunk level. An improvement over normal ale, but still not as convienient as spiked nog that gets you all the way to level 5 in one gulp.

D3file · Jan 27, 2007, 08:37 AM // 08:37

Script ^that is all^

kade · Jan 27, 2007, 10:29 AM // 10:29

Just got Ale-Hound, I owe it solely to this thread...otherwise all that spiked eggnog would have sat forever in my inventory

Thanks to all who helped, here are a few tips:

I found over the past 3 days that the time windows in the towns i used would change randomly, even while i was in them. Iron Mines>>Isle of Solitude was a 12 sec downtime which then turned into a 25 sec downtime and then actually went to no downtime at all. I was able to drink constantly with no window. After discovering this the window reappeared so i zoned around to see if i could recreate a windowless town. Sure enough with enough zoning and changing towns i was able to turn both Divinity Coast and (i think) Henge of Denravi into such towns. However, which town becomes windowless and the length of time that it remains so seems completely random.

This information may or may not be able to be replicated, but i was able to recreate the towns a number of times with a little patience (what i did to make them im still not certain, but after enough zoning between towns they appeared).

Also if you drink 1 spiked eggnog, (gain 1 level) then drink a regular ale you will gain 3...but not lose your base 3 levels. In this way you can alternate between Spiked and regular which may be helpful for some of you having a hard time finding just Spiked (you can drink solidly this way without wasting any ale).

Also if you zone (gain 1 level) zone again (gain 2 levels) with spiked eggnog, you can then zone a third time without drinking after gaining the second 2 levels and drink a spiked ale. In doing so you will then gain 3 levels at once, though you must still zone twice for each spiked.
I found this useful as looking for a +3 per drink is often easier than looking for a +1 then +2 after hours of staring at the screen

Awesome guide here I hope this helps some of you with this pain in the @ss title, even with the help of this lol. Thanks again Dragou, I owe you a beer, er, ale

Pan Head · Jan 28, 2007, 10:49 PM // 22:49

After reading this seems that is is a time VS money issue. If you have plenty of money you can get it done fast. But it seems to be much cheaper to do it the way it was intended.

Unless someone has a was of getting mass quantities of beverage cheap.

R A Z E · Jan 29, 2007, 08:11 PM // 20:11

Where was this information when I was going for my IAH title? I did every single bit of my 10,000 minute drunken rampage on the straight and narrow. What a fool I was.

On the other hand ... I enjoy getting titles very, very much, and I usually try to find ways that I can work on multiple titles at once. Someone who is going to go for IAH seriously is probably someone who is going for it on their way to either KOABD or PKM, in which case zoning this way might not be the most ... um ... entertaining thing one can do with their day.

I used my 10,000 minutes to map all three continents. Of course, by the time I was done I thought I was going to be permanently cross eyed ... but for me it was more satisfying than just sitting around zoning for hours on end.

... also, I like to do things the hard way.

simon2881 · Jan 30, 2007, 03:54 PM // 15:54

This guide is awesome.
I've put on 5000 mins in 3 days, just another 4199 mins to go !!
Time to start farming, i need another 1000 spiked eggnogs to finish it !

Bartuc Galadwor · Jan 31, 2007, 04:29 AM // 04:29

Okay, so my guildie was using Quarrel Falls and it was working for him which confirms that it is based on what Guild Hall you have. He also noticed that Quarrel Falls worked for hours with a permanent window and eventually there were some time he was zoning and it wouldn't give him the minutes which proves Kade's point.

So with some more testing it seems correct to say that the windows will change throughout the day. If I recall correctly when I was doing my first testing it was around 4 P.M. my time and Quarrel Falls had a permanent window. It is now almost 9:30 P.M. my time and I am noticing that Quarrel Falls seems to have some window but I'm not sure how long it is yet as I haven't tested.

To see if this is true about window's changing throughout the day, when I get home from school tomorrow (around 4 P.M.) I'll try drinking in Quarrel Falls again to see if the window is permanent once again.

Stimm · Jan 31, 2007, 07:16 AM // 07:16

At first I tried following the method outlined in the first post. But after a few zones back and forth I found I didnt have a window where I WASNT getting credit. I went through 500 spiked eggnogs and only wasted 1 when I accidently clicked it instead of guildhall button.

I used Hunters Isle Guildhall and Ember Light Camp as my 2 bases. I would drink in ELC zone to GH and get 1 minute then back to ELC and get the 2 minutes. I could do this over and over as fast as I could maintain without stopping. I went through my 500 spiked in 1 session.

So either there was a flaw in your method or I just got real lucky and found a combonation that had no down time. Regardless I thank you for speeding up my persuit of IAH

dr1zz one · Jan 31, 2007, 07:14 PM // 19:14

I was reading thru here and figured I'd give a good spot for Nightfall owners to zone.

I use spiked egg nogs from one stack zoning from Kamadan to Consulate Docks and walking thru the zone between. Be aware to watch your minutes, because there are a few occasions where you dont register the 3 minutes (as the OP posted) so you need to just continue into the next zone. Also I bring one running skill for that zone between Consulate Docks and Kamadan.

Start in Kamadan and take 1 spiked egg nog then map to Consulate Docks. (usually get 3 minutes for this zone)
At Consulate take 1 spiked egg nog and walk thru the portal heading to Kamadan. (watch your minutes to make sure you get the 3 minutes registered)If you dont get 3 minutes, just continue walking thru to Kamadan. If you get the 3 minutes, take another spiked egg nog and walk thru to Kamadan.
At Kamadan, watch your minutes to see if you get the 3 minutes. If you get 3 minutes, take another and repeat the cycle. If you dont get the 3 minutes, map to Consulate.